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By Dr H0ffm4n (Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 07:30:45 AM EST) (all tags)
So my week of solitude is nearly over. I've left the house precisely twice since Monday evening. Once to go to the corner postbox to post a DVD back to Amazon and once to go to the corner shop to buy cigarettes.

Inside: What is WPKAW up to? Why I won't get married. Dr H went to church. Three more films since Tuesday.



What is WPKAW up to?
WPKAW has spent the week with her parents. She took my midgets along too. A sort of holiday while they're off school.  It was WPKAW's idea. The midgets are not hers - Mother of Midgets has taken the opportunity and gone to Rhodes for the week.

I went with them last weekend and came back Sunday evening to work this week. OK, so I only went into the office for one day and there's not been much to do, as a contractor I have to show some sort of activity to justify being paid. WPKAW's parents don't have any inter-web connectivity and frankly I was looking forward to a week by myself.

But the question arises of just what WPKAW's motives are. Friends have suggested that she's explicitly demonstrating that she cares for the midgets and can look after them for a week without me. In doing so she thinks that she shows herself to be fine marriage material. But if that's the case, she fundamentally and repeatedly misunderstands my reasoning against marriage. I got a barrage from her mother on Sunday about how nice it would be, it's the natural step to take and so on. It's not WPKAW that I don't want to marry though, it's anybody. I don't think I've ever really explained it well enough. maybe I don't understand my reasons well enough to make any explanation clear. But here goes.

Why I won't get married
It's all a question of permanence. And cynicism. Nothing is permanent. Should I make a promise to stay with someone for the rest of my life when I doubt that it's a promise I could keep? What is the purpose of getting married? Where marriage once gave a measure of security, I don't see that as valid any more. Divorce is not much harder than splitting up when you just live together anyway. People change. If they are lucky enough to be able to change together then the relationship might last. But to tie two people together regardless of any future incompatibilities seems more like punishment than reward.

And what security is being sought? Security against what? I already have midgets that go between myself an MoM. Until it happened, I never wanted to have midgets there'll be no more midgets in my life. Although the midgets did noticeably suffer slightly when MoM and I split, we worked hard to remain on friendly terms and had quickly reached a stability that gave them structure and security. I had no need of someone else to help take care of them.

What other security should I need? I am teh modern man who can take care of himself. I need no one for support. I can pay my way, cook, clean, dress myself, arrange my own time. If I ever feel the need for someone to take care of, I have two midgets that deserve that role. I don't desire to have some adult be a burden to me. A healthy adult should be able to take care of themself and why should I choose one that could not?

The cynic in me views many others' relationships as being heavily laden with the need to take care of someone or be taken care of. Isn't that a parent/child relationship rather than and adult/adult one? Love songs and romantic literature are full of allusions to need. To being incomplete without the other. But i just don't feel incomplete. I don't yearn for someone to complete me or enhance me.

Asking me to change my views on marriage would be akin to expecting someone to change religions. Is it not selfish to ask someone to give up their long held faith simply to make you happy? Would WPKAW's Baptist parents be pleased if i were Muslim and expected WPKAW to convert? To expect me to marry when I hold these views would be asking me to make a false promise. I may be a cynic, but my partner would have to collude in the cynicism. And then why bother getting married if she believed my promise was not true?

I still don't think someone with opposing views would understand. If my views are incoherent then they are just excuses. Maybe I'm just a commitment-phobe. Maybe if I "just met the right woman" I would change my mind and all doubt would be cleared away. But I'm not so idealistic to believe that any more.

Dr H went to church
WPKAW's parents invited us (WPKAW, myself and the midgets) to attend church with them on Sunday morning. I thought it would be educational for the midgets to attend a service. They've only ever been to weddings and funerals. I was curious to see if modern baptist sermons are any different for the CofE ones I suffered as a child. It was more interactive and geared towards families. The first 10 minutes were announcements of old people dying, people going into or out of hospital and prayers for them. Then there was a half an hour demonstration where the kids got to write down things they'd done wrong on slips of thin rice paper and red coloured water was poured over them. Miraculously "the blood of Christ" washed away their sins! After that the kids were taken out to a separate play room where they danced and did arts and crafts. The rest of the sermon (about an hour) was take up by a geometric deconstruction of the first two lines of the Lord's prayer. Yes, I did say geometric deconstruction. Geometry was used to show strength and beauty in shapes with certain numbers of sides that coincided with the number of words in certain phrases. Each word was also individually dissected and analysed. "Father" got special attention as singling out Christianity as the only religion that had an intimate, caring God.

One thing that surprised me was that the pastor claimed that the later line asking to be absolved of trespass shows that Jesus never meant this prayer for himself as he had never committed a trespass. I had been led to believe that Jesus had sinned twice and that demonstrated that he was human as well as divine?

Three films
Dogville [2004]
Lars von Trier's Palm D'Or nominated film of charity, morals, abuse and exploitation in the 1930s has been criticised for being anti-American. Trier is himself critical of America, but the unfolding tragedy of the downfall of the people of Dogville could be played out in any destitute small town across the world. What makes Dogville unusual on first viewing is the minimal set. It is like a Cluedo board or architects plan with the outlines of buildings painted in white onto a black floor with minimal props to designate the activities of the people within and the names off the occupants and streets painted on also. Why? Well, this is a very small town of only about ten buildings. The lack of walls heightens the claustrophobia by shrinking the town to one entity. Everyone knows everyone else's business. It's the antithesis of using special effects, it works well and you get used to it quickly.

Nicole Kidman got paid less than her make-up artist for appearing. She enters Dogville on the run from gangsters and the folk reluctantly agree to shelter her as a test of their moral character. Over time charity turns to extreme exploitation but Kidman's character remains steadfast in her charitable nature even when escape plans are thwarted and she's chained up to prevent any further attempts. I'll not add any further spoilers as this is an amazing film I'd recommend everyone sees. [9/10]

The Asphalt Jungle [1950]
Nowadays this noir heist movie is more noteworthy for being one of Marilyn Monroe's first films. but she is the worst actress ever in this and one has to wonder quite why she was cast. Luckily she is only 11th on the original billing. In reality this is one of the classic gritty noir thrillers from John Huston. [8/10]

Grave of the Fireflies [2004]
I have to come clean and state that I'm not a fan of animated features. I supposed I'm a bigot who still has the feeling that animation = cartoons = for kids. Same with comics. This may have gone a long way to change my mind. I don't think GotF could have been realised quite so effectively with conventional actors. To sum up, this melancholic portrayal of the fate of two orphans struggling to survive in Japan at the end of WWII is terrifically affecting without being too overly sentimental. Enough to make a grown man tear up. not this one, but another grown man. [9/10]

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Marriage by nebbish (4.00 / 2) #1 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 07:37:16 AM EST
You're making too big a deal out of it. From what you're saying it doesn't mean much to you - so if your partner wants it, why not do it for her?

Plus you get to have two really big drunken parties.

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It does mean a lot to me though by Dr H0ffm4n (4.00 / 3) #3 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 07:46:44 AM EST
I view my promises as important. I don't make promises I have little chance of keeping. It's also more likely that I could see myself with someone for longer if they didn't feel the need to get married.

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Then that's fair enough by nebbish (2.00 / 0) #10 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 08:19:44 AM EST
I'm probably a bit more practical than moral when it comes to this sort of thing.

And I'm a bit of a sucker for weddings. I always cry for one thing.

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Girl by Dr H0ffm4n (4.00 / 2) #12 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 08:21:08 AM EST


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Is she? by ambrosen (2.00 / 0) #14 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 08:29:27 AM EST
Nebbish, will you marry me?

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yeah by Merekat (2.00 / 0) #15 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 08:39:33 AM EST
Incense allergies are really annoying...

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Jesus's sin by jump the ladder (2.00 / 0) #2 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 07:43:05 AM EST
Wasn't one when he wandered from his parents in the temple?

What was the other one?



IIRC the violence against the money lenders by Dr H0ffm4n (2.00 / 0) #5 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 07:47:20 AM EST


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Oh yeah by jump the ladder (2.00 / 0) #6 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 07:51:58 AM EST
Forgot about that one.

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It was misinterpreted as violence by georgeha (4.00 / 2) #7 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 08:05:50 AM EST
in reality, He offered them a ride in His Plymouth, He drove them out in His Fury.


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sins by garlic (2.00 / 0) #8 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 08:06:13 AM EST
That's pretty interesting. coming from a lutheran tradition, and then attending a Bible Church (read fundamentalist) for a while, both traditions believe he did not sin. This is what made him a suitable sacrifice for everybody else.

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but his humanity by Dr H0ffm4n (2.00 / 0) #11 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 08:19:56 AM EST
would make the sacrifice more intimate. A deity can throw their spirit around into and out of this world without any sacrifice. As a human, Jesus' suffering is human too.

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human by garlic (2.00 / 0) #24 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 09:44:24 AM EST
certainly. but you don't have to sin to be human.

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fallible then by Dr H0ffm4n (2.00 / 0) #38 Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 04:04:40 AM EST
just as Spock has illogical moments.

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Or, alternatively... by xth (2.00 / 0) #26 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 09:55:14 AM EST
...he was just a charlatan.



DISCLAIMER: the management of xth ltd. declines any responsibility for any damage deriving in any way from the content, misspellt or otherwise, of the above post.


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Well... by The Fool (2.00 / 0) #28 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 10:28:02 AM EST
if you equate the money lenders to door-to-door salesmen and telemarketers, it doesn't seem like much of a sin, does it?


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In time the savage bull doth bear the yoke. by Rogerborg (2.00 / 0) #4 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 07:46:53 AM EST
The savage bull may; but if ever the sensible
Dr H0ffm4n bear it, pluck off the bull's horns and set
them in his forehead: and let his be vilely painted,
and in such great letters as they write 'Here is
good horse to hire,' let them signify under his sign
'Here you may see Dr H0ffm4n the married man.'

I'm saving up odd quirks and remnants of wit to break upon you when you hang your bugle in that invisible baldrick, and no mistake.


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Metus amatores matrum compescit, non clementia.


Verily so by Dr H0ffm4n (2.00 / 0) #9 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 08:15:59 AM EST
But to get married would require action on my part, rather than the inaction that has led me to this place.

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nope by infinitera (2.00 / 0) #16 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 08:41:44 AM EST
Just a signature probably.

[…] a professional layabout. Which I aspire to be, but am not yet. — CheeseburgerBrown
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Heh by Dr H0ffm4n (2.00 / 0) #19 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 08:45:09 AM EST
You've never got married have you?

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I have by Rogerborg (4.00 / 1) #21 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 09:25:44 AM EST
A signature is pretty much all that's required, depending on one's intended.

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Metus amatores matrum compescit, non clementia.
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Intended by Dr H0ffm4n (4.00 / 2) #44 Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 05:37:38 AM EST
Can one call her that if one does not intend?

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or a shotgun by martingale (2.00 / 0) #20 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 08:51:22 AM EST
Shotguns work wonders.
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Seven years inaction... by The Fool (2.00 / 0) #29 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 10:33:23 AM EST
get you married all the same.

But without the presents and dancing.


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Not over here it doesn't. by hulver (2.00 / 0) #30 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 10:46:15 AM EST

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Weird by The Fool (2.00 / 0) #31 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 10:48:16 AM EST
I thought the whole "common law marriage" thing came from British common law.

Shows what I know.


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nobody does common law anymore by garlic (2.00 / 0) #32 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 11:14:05 AM EST
Or if they do, you can't 'accidentally' be married by staying with them for 7 years. You have to call it a marriage yourself.

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She might just want to spend time with the midgets by ambrosen (4.00 / 1) #13 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 08:25:41 AM EST
After all, if she's seeing a lot of them, then why shouldn't she want to know them better?

Also, I'd kill for a week at home on my own chilling out. Or to be on my own in a room for 23 hours a day with nothing but TV to watch for 15 years.



taxes! by martingale (4.00 / 1) #17 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 08:42:34 AM EST
Just get a civil ceremony, and reap the tax benefits. There's bound to be some. But make sure she signs a prenup.
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You old romantic, you... by Dr H0ffm4n (4.00 / 3) #18 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 08:44:29 AM EST


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christian dogma... by gzt (2.00 / 0) #22 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 09:35:26 AM EST
...is that Jesus was fully human and fully God, but that he never sinned. Sin is not a part of what it is to be human, it is a distortion of human nature. By assuming human nature, he was able to heal it.



Also, by ambrosen (2.00 / 0) #27 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 10:05:31 AM EST
it's one of those things that's impossible to discuss without accidentally saying something heretical. But that seems to be it.

Out of interest, but completely off topic to the thread, are you theologically trained? Also, how many of the daily offices would you get to in a week? You seemed to say something about going to Vespers on a weekday a few months ago.

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I have no theological trainig. by gzt (2.00 / 0) #37 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 05:40:00 PM EST
Ja, it's tricky stuff.

They do vespers on Tuesdays and Thursdays on campus during the school year, so I try to make it there. At my parish, they also have it Wednesday and Saturday evenings all year. I almost always make Saturdays and only make Wednesdays if I'm bored and have nothign better to do [I have to take a bus downtown].

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That wasn't how I was taught by Dr H0ffm4n (2.00 / 0) #39 Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 04:08:25 AM EST
Which Christian dogma? That's the thing with the differing Christian credos and differing interpretations within each credo.

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Umm... by gzt (2.00 / 0) #45 Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:25:01 AM EST
...this is universal. This is the Christian credo. The only possible exceptions are modernist liberal theology, Mormons, and Jehovah's Witnesses.

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But that wasn't what I was taught by Dr H0ffm4n (2.00 / 0) #48 Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:58:42 AM EST
By the CofE during the 70s and 80s.

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File under "modern liberal theology"? by gzt (2.00 / 0) #51 Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 01:27:34 PM EST
Or undereducated catechists. I mean, I could point to the Anglican creedal statements that agree with me if you really want. The CofE had definite problems with enforcing Christian orthodoxy starting at least in the 50s.

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Have you really told WPKAW by webwench (2.00 / 0) #23 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 09:41:04 AM EST
in no uncertain terms that you don't believe in marriage and will not marry her, and you do not want more children? If not, you probably should. If so, you probably should again. Nothing wrong with your thoughts on the matter at all, in my opinion, but if the desperately wants to marry, and/or desperately wants to have children, she needs to make an informed decision about whether to stick with you and put those things aside, or leave you and go search for her ring and her babies.

Even if you *think* you have told her, you may not have, really, or she may not really understand that you mean it. Tell her again, and then quiz her on the material. No, I'm not kidding. After that, you're morally as white as the driven snow,a nd can tell the pushy parents to shove off :)




wpkaw by garlic (2.00 / 0) #34 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 11:16:40 AM EST
this is the same woman who the good dr said was never going to move in. Where's she living now? I imagine she thinks she can badger and/or trick him into the marriage thing as well.

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Yes, I've told her but ... by Dr H0ffm4n (2.00 / 0) #40 Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 04:39:05 AM EST
Her interpretation may not be what I intend. The simple statement that I do not believe in marriage, will not get married and that I do not want more children may seem to be final. But WPKAW and/or her parents may believe that I can be persuaded over time by generous acts. As I say in the diary, I suspect I may not be clear enough in my reasoning to convince someone who is used to thinking about marriage in very diffeent terms.

WPKAW doesn't desparately want to get married. She balks at the modern cost of a traditional wedding. But she does believe in marriage. She used to run a wedding planning business with her mum, so has both a practical as well as romantic view of getting married. She wants kids but has complications anyway so may not be able to have her own. At the moment she wants a dog more than marriage or kids. I've said no to that too.

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Aww, poor girl can't even have a dog by webwench (2.00 / 0) #46 Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:48:05 AM EST
Well, when you say "WPKAW and/or her parents may believe that I can be persuaded over time by generous acts", you know that this is their problem, and not yours, given you've stated what you are and aren't planning to do.

Funny how some people just can't hear what they don't want to hear, isn't it? :)


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Dog by Dr H0ffm4n (2.00 / 0) #47 Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 09:57:28 AM EST
Not fair as the house is empty a lot of the time. I work from home sometimes, but not often enough and not consistently enough to make it fair to keep a dog.

I try and treat adults as adults. I try not to make their decisions for them. So if WPKAW knows the score but still thinks things will change, at what point do I have to take the ball out of her court and force a decision upon her? My take is some random time in teh future, if at all.

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True with the dog by webwench (2.00 / 0) #49 Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 10:07:34 AM EST
How about a cat?

If she knows the score, it's really not ever your place to force a decision upon her... because then you're really taking the decision away from her. Just repeat the score to her every six months or so to make sure she gets it... but if the problem is that you are tiring of the relationship, then by all means get out.


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She wants a dog by Dr H0ffm4n (2.00 / 0) #50 Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 10:24:14 AM EST
And I'm allergic to cats.

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The Marriage by Herring (2.00 / 0) #25 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 09:54:23 AM EST
Lyrics

I'm English, and as such I crave disappointment. - Bill Bailey


Geometry by johnny (4.00 / 1) #33 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 11:15:08 AM EST
How could one deconstruct that prayer unless it were done in the original language? Or is the transform from Aramaic-space to English-space considered to be lossless, so to speak?  Whatever, to me it sounds like a stupid sermon.

Also, as I understand it, the story is that Jesus said, "don't memorize your prayers and say them rote, that is teh suck.  Instead you should fake it with your own flow, viz:_" (and then he ad-libs his rap).  So the whole idea of memorizing the Lord's Prayer is a fundamental inversion of the Jesus message -- which is of course par for the course in "Christianity".  Or so it would seem to me, but I'm no theologian.

I wonder: what did you make of the whole experience?  Was it interesting? boring? wretched? null?
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Deconstruction: by Dr H0ffm4n (2.00 / 0) #42 Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 05:06:55 AM EST
  1. Does not have to take the author's intentions into account. In fact Derrida's deconstruction techniques purposefully threw out the author in favour of the interpretation of the reader.
  2. Can be used to say whatever you want.
  3. Is one way to come up with a different sermon each week.
The experience was odd at first. It was a place in which I did not belong. Sanctified places make me feel somewhat demonic as if I am carrying dark secrets.

I used to have to attend a C0fE Sunday service once a month as a child up until the age of 16. Also, this was a time when school assemblies in the morning were of a religious nature. So I know what CofE preaching sounds like. Or used to. I was curious how the Baptist preaching was any different. I don't think it is, as far as I could tell from a sample of one. I'd imagine CofE would have modernised slightly in the 20 years since I regularly attended so as to make the difference negligible. But then Baptist churches do not have a central governing body so diversity is natural and one pastor's methods may differ enormously from another's.

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Dogville by ChiefHoser (2.00 / 0) #35 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 02:06:19 PM EST
What an awesome movie, I found the pace of the movie to be slightly strange, but I still loved watching it.  I remember reading that the movie was the first of a trilogy of some kind.  If I remember correctly it is to be a trilogy not in the continuous story manner, but in concepts and ideas.
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Trilogy by Dr H0ffm4n (2.00 / 0) #41 Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 05:00:08 AM EST
Manderlay is already out in France. Comes to UKia in November. No release date for USia.

Wasington (sic) due in 2007.

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Films by ad hoc (2.00 / 0) #36 Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 04:53:47 PM EST
I agree with Asphalt Jungle. I gave it an A. Netflix says it was Marylin Monroe's seventh movie. (Wasn't her first one All About Eve?)

Fireflys made me weep. Okay, maybe not weep, but teary, certainly.
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IMDB IYF by Dr H0ffm4n (2.00 / 0) #43 Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 05:35:42 AM EST
23. All About Eve (1950) .... Miss Caswell
24. The Fireball (1950) .... Polly
  ... aka The Challenge
25. The Asphalt Jungle (1950) .... Angela Phinlay
26. A Ticket to Tomahawk (1950) (uncredited) .... Clara
27. Love Happy (1949) .... Grunion's Client
  ... aka Kleptomaniacs (USA)
28. Ladies of the Chorus (1948) .... Peggy Martin
29. Scudda Hoo! Scudda Hay! (1948) (uncredited) .... Girl in Canoe (lake scenes)
  ... aka Summer Lightning (UK)
30. Dangerous Years (1947) .... Evie

Which means Netflix knows about one that IMDB does not?

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